- Lift09
25-27 Feb 2009
Geneva, Switzerland
something I can´t stop thinking about, I hope to find people in the lift comunity that I can discuss this with, learn, share, put in better words... thanks for reading!
1.threshhold of effort
making things hard <--> making things easy
valuate <--> devaluate
How is blogging, social networking and other web2.0 data/contact processing nothing more than the pre-internet communication and where lay the main differences?
I would say that the operations
uttering opinions / gathering opinions
giving information / getting information
have been drastically simplified and put on a larger scale. Looking at the availability of information, this is of great benefit. What about opinions.
I dare to say that most of the opinions uttered in the Internet are completely useless and an absolute waste of time, meaning: They don’t have any value in my personal opinion building. Just about the same as in the real world.
In real world: thanks to certain limitations to my receptors I wont be able to even process the reactions of 5 or more digit numbers of co-humans to stimulus of any kind AND will not reflect on how there might be a connection to me. Good, that’s how decision making and opinion building works as a human being.
Still, it seems that numbers give confidence... Again a thing that has always been there. But this is so dead. THATS the one and only difference. It’s a mass-phenomenon without the dynamics of masses.
My judgment is based on unmappable processes in my brain that happen in mine alone and cannot be translated into very primitive (in terms of complexity) operations of set theory (clicked it/didn´t). Nothing new so far, right?
2. Watershed of validation
recommendation from
a chosen few <--> from majority
opinion based on
own opinonmaking <--> opinion sourcing
A few thousand books get published in Germany alone every year; I will not touch a book unless a chosen few (credible friends, credible media, own interest ) will bring it to my attention. Iterate this to every aspect of data.
I’m a musician; my business runs on recommendation, mutual matchmaking of a very complex nature and achievement. Whose doesn’t?
Still, don’t get me wrong. I know the exact specs of the MacBookAir, my BoingBoing, how to hack my devices and so on..
Oh, I do understand, that if the very basis of my business is selling, and the basis of my success is how many people will buy, I will be interested in a different set of data and how to influence it, of course.
So, one chooses its data accordingly. Choosing means to move the watershed to find the right amount of high and low threshold data.
3.moving the watershed
Web4.0: this will be the challenge of the future in technology: Implementing what makes me feel "she ain’t my kind”, "he’s trustworthy”,” I love that taste“ and protecting me from this massive amount of junk and idiots seemingly being of interest to me.
And I have not yet talked about the logical consequence in our free market: how do we make use of this overabundance of low threshold data and failure to identify it as such to sell more... basically, implementing a human being, carefully chosen by you for its knowledge, taste and interest. Whait a minute, that’s inplementing you...
I predict the future of myspace or facebook will be its opposite: Very restricted communities with very high standards of authentication, people outside of this
circle won’t even know of to make sure to keep too much low threshhold data out of opinonbuilding. Like: Circles of friends, small companies, ....sounds familiar?
Comments
Hi Fabian Lots here. Shame I
Hi Fabian
Lots here. Shame I am not getting the 6 hour train to create more consumption, thinking space before I get to LIFT next week.
Just for now I want to offer this... as a social constructivist, educator who doesn't hold a lot of store in absolute truth outside the physiological reality of the way hearts and lungs function, for example.
We construct our own truth by documenting it and reflecting on it. For women, even more than men, the dialogical process is essential. It is for all of us, certainly if we want to create consensual truth that takes us forward together.
When I teach blogging, I say, the first audience for your blog is YOU. So whether Libby or Fabian think your blog post is a load of old cobblers is NOT primary, it is secondary to the process. For me one of the most interesting processes is that of human becoming. How we can self-educate to realise who we are and what we are here to BE, to do.
I hold the fundamental belief that if people live more whole and authentic lives, that make sure their inherent talents and abilities are developed, their values and beliefs revealed and applied, then all will be better... will will evolve. I also hold the fundamental belief that everything is interconnected in ways we cannot yet fully understand. That the Quantum Physicists and Buddhists seem to have so much in common becomes less and less of a surprise. But oh... the mysterys. The questions.
Never before have we needed the wisdom of the crowd to prevail. If we leave it to the traditional custodians of "the truth" (eg. think industrial-military complex, church, media barons, tenured professors) then we will continue to get the same truth and consequences we have been getting. We will get closer and closer to the anhihalation of the human species. The earth will survive, but we will not.
The competition for truth doesn't aid these processes, but healthy debate and dialogue, like LIFT and blogging offers, certainly does.
Yes, there are many iterative steps in these processes, a lot of half-backed ideas and opinions being expressed. But perhaps we can rejoice in the diversity of voices, the opportunity for the many rather than the few to experience their own voice and have it echoed and reflected, to be in the conversation. To be co-creating the highest truths we can aspire to. To be working together without artificial hierarchy. Thank god hyperlinks subvert hierarchy!
There is of course an increasingly important role for editing, aggregation and other ways for us to filter content to meet our needs.
Thanks for your stimulating post! I'll get into it all some more soon.
Libby
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blogging=feminine? ...because
blogging=feminine?
...because of its dialogic nature?
ok, I only put that upfront for means of catchyness, its oversimplified, but still.
I like that idea a lot. I'm serious.
thank you for you quick and interesting answer!
looking forward to more.
we agree on quite a few things:
-perception of truth
-the becoming of self by developing, constant growth
-the interconnectedness of things beyond human grasp
-freedom of speech - and ability to be heard : great!
-dialogic process essential to growth
these being things that everybody should be able to agree on after some thought:)
life would be better.
beyond that (opinionated) :
why not write a diary, instead of blogging until enough reflection and refinement has been brought to the content that it is now an essential addition to a dialogic process - and at this stage needs dialogue to develop further?
problem is that contributions of that kind get buried under pointless blah and neither clicks nor crossreferencing wont bring them up.
I guess that criticism comes from a perception of publishing that goes more along the lines of traditional -articles, -concerts, -books, etc.
I like the quickness of the web, and the opportunity of blogging (!!!!) but I dislike the sloppiness on one side, and uniformity on the other it misleads to -thats what I mean by the threshold of effort being low. Thats of great help to the aforementioned traditional custodians of "the truth"..
Talking to somebody who really listens makes you quickly choose your words more carefully - another kind of dialogic process.
If you want to publish a thesis, you'll have to make sure its more than a first thought. If I play a concert I make sure I know what I'm doing - I have a responsibility.
These transitions and the amount of energy needed go directly into the quality of the content. Thats actually self editing, and a claim for growth?
up to here. thanks! fabian
PS: Thank god hyperlinks subvert hierarchy! WORD!
... after having written the
... after having written the above on a plane, I found this on DE:BUG online
Goto 80:
I do not feel like supporting myspace anymore. It’s an ugly dysfunctional network of people that too often resolve to disgusting ways of getting attention. Myspace is good for meeting people, hearing new music and promoting yourself but by doing this you are also supporting a network of companies that are a big part in what can be called cultural censorship. I mean that for example books, newspapers, magazines, music and movies are distributed through an ever-decreasing number of media conglomerates that in the name of profit disregard of controversial creations. This is not good when most of us are a bit too lazy/busy to find alternatives to standards.
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please, go check out his myspace site to grasp the full notion! You can read on there, if you can :)